Monday 25 December 2006

Bob is afraid of AAA + Goons + RA + D2

Original EVE-O Thread (Censored)



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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
[edit]Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 11:06:30[/edit]
[edit]Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:58:16[/edit]
In case I am censored, from now on my posts will also be published on http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com/

shakaZ XIV asks: "Why wouldn't they go for us? :P

Seriously though... /me looks in crystal ball (or was it tinfoil ball ;p), and sees: AAA probably wanna help RA wipe LV off ze map, then nap D2 (they have done this already, afaik?), after which AAA + goons + RA + D2 + all the other bob haters all gang up on us :D muhaha!

Or not... but you never know! ;p

/me starts mass producing tin-foil

Either way, totally lame from AXE that they just give up. :lol: gg to AAA tbh.."

DigitalCommunist replied: "We also have D2 going to war with us soon (the full extent of which is not clear), with the Fountain flamers and AAA making a move on us at the same time. Since AXE pulled out relatively quick, this might be before we can take all stations and secure them. Translating to capital gangbang in three different regions. If they get their timing right, we're finally gonna have us a good ole challenge on our hands :P

This should make you both horny and worried at the same time, but never afraid. Even if we lose stations or entire regions, its the long run that counts. And of those 3, only AAA would have the willpower to keep it up for half a year.

Oh and D2 finished an Erebus this morning."

Hey faggots, the above two quotes are from TODAY!

Everything I posted below is just to put these quotes into context.

Let's rewind a little bit...

D2 bought an erubus BPO around the 6th of November. At the time Bob had its hands full and was considering taking out D2 capital ship array around the 11th of December with MC and Fix... maybe this is another indication of Bob being overstretched.

At the time Sir Molle said: "Titan needs popped, bring MC and FIX." but there were still concerns of ASCN getting back on its feet... Krystal suggested"
let D2 have their titan and grow some balls, we'll kill it eventually is my opinion."

To this, Rift Scorn replied : "Couldn't state my feelings better on the subject. Make no mistake D2 will not take it lightly if we do this. I'm all for ruining D2's shit, but squish ASCN first then smash D2.

Seeing as they've NAP'd everything that moved in the North Rolling Eyes and they've had a break from POS wars there's nothing to stop them hitting us hard when we got the remnants of ASCN that could get organized and try a re-take."

DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was:

1. attack ascn, piss them off, take out capital fleet.
2. attack d2-, piss them off, take out capital fleet.
3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us.

Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.dbp posted an old convo...
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Chowdown > Yo
dbp > hello mr chow
Chowdown > How are you?
dbp > aye not bad, just back from physio... I broke both bones in my legs 2.5 weeks ago
dbp > so sat on my ass most of the day
dbp > how about you?
Chowdown > Yeah not to bad
Chowdown > finally got a proper internet connection after a year
Chowdown > so pretty chuffed
dbp > sheesh, that must have been a nightmare Very Happy
Chowdown > Yup stealing wireless is OK
Chowdown > but not the most reliable on dread ops Razz
Chowdown > anyway the reason I have hunted you down
Chowdown > and I have chatted to thol about it a bit
Chowdown > we believe d2 may be building RA a titan
Chowdown > needless to say
Chowdown > that fucks us off a fair bit
dbp > why build ra a titan?
dbp > why not build it for themselves?
Chowdown > Cause they don't like us
dbp > btw, we know the exact location of the titan
dbp > and when it is due out
Chowdown > Well as I understand they have an erebus in production for themselves
dbp > that's the one we know about
Chowdown > yup potentially they have a second
Chowdown > as I understand
dbp > they have 2 motherships
Chowdown > you guys will be finishing off ASCN fairly soon
dbp > not seen anything that suggests another titan
Chowdown > and after we have made are token effort defending ASCN in there death throws
dbp > we won't actually, we've taken paragon soul but feth will be another 2 or 3 months
Chowdown > hmm
Chowdown > I don't know man
Chowdown > there leadership is in a shit state
Chowdown > lots of in fighting
dbp > have you seen how many outposts they have :p
dbp > the pure logistics of killing it all is going to take a while
dbp > they broke badly in paragon soul a couple of weeks ago
Chowdown > I think they might put there hands up
Chowdown > or certain factions of them
dbp > but are regrouping now in feth
Chowdown > AXE will be hard work
dbp > we're not interesting in axe tbh
Chowdown > but Molle has good relations with SR as I understand
dbp > we did have
Chowdown > ahh well there you go Razz
dbp > but he's pissed at us
dbp > coz we killed cyvok
Chowdown > he is a bit petulant to be honest
dbp > or are killing
dbp > they are fucked with AAA anyay
dbp > I doubt they'll manage to hold that region with aaa there
dbp > which has been great for us albiet I hate aaa with a passion Razz
Chowdown > yup
Chowdown > well 3 factions are well up there on my hate list
Chowdown > RA/Goon, D2 and aaa
Chowdown > to be honest I am not to fussed about anyone else
Chowdown > d2 will be growing soft tho
Chowdown > they have been pretty much left alone for some time now
dbp > in the summer, we looked at who to hit
dbp > we decided D2 > ASCN
dbp > err
dbp > D2 THEN ascn i mean
Chowdown > but ASCN forced the issue?
dbp > however, when we were actually ready to go to war, we found that d2 were fucked up
dbp > so we hit ascn first
dbp > d2 have regrouped and are looking stronger
dbp > so we'll batter them after ascn is finished
dbp > ra/goons will get some too
Chowdown > Well wuth the advent of Kali, we are excited about in roads we can make on RA
Chowdown > goons are losing the will to fight
dbp > without bullshit, how is it going against ra/goons?
Chowdown > well
Chowdown > no bullshit and between us
dbp > same problems as ever? RA just impossible to finish off?
Chowdown > V are a pile of dog turd
dbp > fair
Chowdown > and are losing ground to RA through the inability to manage POS
Chowdown > so I sat down with there managment the other day
Chowdown > and I think that will be sorted
Chowdown > the advent of our titans
Chowdown > will make it very ahrd for RA/Goon to be effective
Chowdown > as they will not be able to lock down any systems
dbp > the titan is lovely btw, the jump bridge instantly bypasses that fucking pish traffic control
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
[edit]Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:32:59[/edit]
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Chowdown > yup very excited about that factor
dbp > it sounds like you are still caught in a bit of a mincer of a war
Chowdown > and as you know, it is easy to defend a death star against 200 when you have 20 in system
Chowdown > to be honest
dbp > aye
Chowdown > I will attempt to save V's space
Chowdown > V, KOS etc
Chowdown > CHIMP
Chowdown > I wanted them to suceed, but in the worst case scenario
Chowdown > they were just a meatshield
Chowdown > for us to properly defend and gain enough regions
Chowdown > that is in plac enow
dbp > fair
dbp > you going to keep omist and tenerifis?
dbp > couple of my dudes keep fucking off into omist annoyingly
dbp > but then end up getting camped down for hours on end
Chowdown > yup the alliance we have down there is alright
Chowdown > We see it as our home now
dbp > tbh, it's the bext protected industrial space we've seen :p
Chowdown > well my home well always be curse Smile
dbp > bext&
dbp > fuck my spelling :X
Chowdown > You should see what we have sitting in the stations Razz
dbp > hehe
Chowdown > my too mate dyslopixs
dbp > so what are you proposing with regards d2?
Chowdown > mine*
Chowdown > well we should of done it before they made the changes
Chowdown > with regards to reinforced
Chowdown > but maybe a joint venture we can site the reason
Chowdown > RA titan in production yada yada
dbp > we would need to find the actual titan site
dbp > and like i say, we haven't seen it
Chowdown > I have 5 people working on that atm
dbp > only the 2 moships and titan
dbp > for d2
dbp > if you can find it in the next two weeks
dbp > I'm pretty sure we could come to some arrengement with regards a joint venture to kill the erebus AND the ra titan
Chowdown > yup
Chowdown > if the ra titan exist
Chowdown > exists
Chowdown > but
Chowdown > to be honest
dbp > but it would have to happen in the first week of december really
Chowdown > D2 smacked us loads with regards to losing POS warfare with RA
Chowdown > without understanding it
Chowdown > then they got owned
Chowdown > and they shut up
Chowdown > well that still stings me
Chowdown > I would be happy to take out there Erebus
dbp > cool
Chowdown > as long as things looked OK down south
dbp > we could take a week out without a problem
Chowdown > Well it is not so easy for us
Chowdown > unrelenting is the term
Chowdown > But maybe we could bring 30 dreads and a titan up
Chowdown > as we have little use for the dreads atm
Chowdown > I have employed MC to hit RA in the complexes
dbp > ok, let me break it down with the other dudes
Chowdown > or hopefully will soon
dbp > but basically, it's up to you to find the titan
Chowdown > which should hopefully take up a lot of there resource
Chowdown > yup
Chowdown > regardless of that tian
Chowdown > if it exists
Chowdown > wwe are interested in busting the erebus
dbp > ok, I'll get back to you with our thoughts later this week
Chowdown > cya dude
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
[edit]Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:37:14[/edit]
Blacklight, bob's wannabe spymaster, suggested: "Would be a good general overall strategy to work unofficially with LV to clean all the wankers out of the south and smack D2 about i.e. we take care of ASCN whilst LV concentrate on reds, we both smack D2's titan and then we both smack both RA/Goons (if they are still going) and then AAA."

At the time D2 was already preparing for Bob's strike... "As far as we know BoB will strike the D2 Titan POS together with FIX and MC, to make sure that we wont finish building the ship by 04.12.06

D2 will do anythin to defend the Titan, probably nap with ragoon if necessary"

Around November 25th, there was a whole discussion as why LV doesn't want to help bob: "After thinking on it more. It really does stink. I would dearly love to kill that titan I mean its the whole BoB vs G thing again really but this benefits LV not us. If they want it dead they come with. We're ready to leave our regions undefended to go and do a job that gives them more than it does us while they sit on their arse. The whole thing reeks of bullshit at this stage and makes me feel that if we go we're gonna come back to find LV, ASCN and half the north squatting in delve"

Alasse said: "I agree completely with Dian (and my god does it hurt Neutral).

Us, MC & FIX all on the other side of the galaxy would be a wet dream for anyone interested in hitting us and there'd be absolutely fuck all we could do about it for days.

Not to mention the fact we'd lose most of our capital fleet in the process, we'd be in a very, very sticky situation if LV & ASCN (maybe D2?) were to roll in to our space at any point within weeks after the fact."

Valora: "We cant stop people from getting titans forever, they will get them sooner or later whether we like it or not. Maybe we should focus on making ourselves stronger, rather than trying to weaken 1 opponent which isnt going to directly benefit us.

Sure, its theoretically easier to kill a titan in the POS on paper, but lets say we reversed the situation and we had 1week of advance knowledge that 50 dreads were going to hit one of our pos... im pretty sure we wouldnt have much trouble formulating a plan that would allow us to rape that dread fleet...."
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex
"The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.

Kind regards,

"

Mods, will you FINALLY start enforcing this?
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex
"The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.

Kind regards,

"
I'll just start my own forum if I am censored.
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Originally Posted by RichThugster
whether its permitted or not, very nice read.

the reason its not permitted is ASCN cry babies
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Originally Posted by Queeria
[edit]Edited by: Queeria on 25/12/2006 08:45:37[/edit]
link to said forum then?

Quality posts if this hasn't all been fabricated and is legit.

Interest +1

Oh, and saved to desktop.
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex
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Originally Posted by RichThugster
whether its permitted or not, very nice read.

the reason its not permitted is ASCN cry babies
Here, have a cookie, big hero.
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Originally Posted by Ackath
LOL

Where do you get all this stuff?

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Originally Posted by Nebba Kenezzer
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex
"The posting of chatlogs/private conversations from another third party forum on the EVE-Online Forums is not permitted. In the past we have observed that posting such material has led to excessive amounts of flaming/trolling.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you see a post/thread/signature which you believe to be against the rules.

Kind regards,

"
I'll just start my own forum if I am censored.
go for it. with info out in the open like that, it'll be much easier to plug the leak.
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
[edit]Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:56:16[/edit]
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Originally Posted by Queeria
[edit]Edited by: Queeria on 25/12/2006 08:45:37[/edit]
link to said forum then?

Quality posts if this hasn't all been fabricated and is legit.

Interest +1

Oh, and saved to desktop.
Just in case: "http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com"

Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
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Originally Posted by Thor Xian
All that really tells me is that BoB is smart enough to know they can't trust anyone to do anything that isn't in their own (not BoB's) best interest, but I already knew that.

Other parts of it are interesting, though not really a surprise.
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Originally Posted by Zeknichov
All this MC and FIX talk I say we just combine alliances and form McFIX. Anyways can I get a summary that's far too much reading for 2:00am.
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex
Cry..
Um, WTF.. u are a member of ASCN, with all the public posting of ur forums, eve-mail, jesus even TS recordings.. you are now wanting this thread silenced because it is stuff from BOB's internal world??!!
sentinel eeex = bob alt spy ftw?! [:ugh:]
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Originally Posted by Emsigma
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :)
That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
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Originally Posted by SaorAlba
Keep it coming m8. Finally after months of Bob post something actually worth reading. Happy christmas to ya all folks. I am off to the mining grounds. Them titan cue's are killing me!
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Emsigma
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :)
That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
To who?

I run one of the largest intelligence agency in EVE, we have compromised over twenty alliances. I think my only rival would be The Mittani and his GIA.

Please don't mention Blacklight or Istvann; they are wannabes compared to me: presomptious, overconfident, arrogant, insolent...
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Emsigma
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :)
That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
To who?

I run one of the largest intelligence agency in EVE, we have compromised over twenty alliances. I think my only rival would be The Mittani and his GIA.

Please don't mention Blacklight or Istvann; they are wannabes compared to me: presomptious, overconfident, arrogant, insolent...
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
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Originally Posted by KIAEddZ
BEst Tinfoil post in ages. Well written, concise and with chat logged evidence of said accusations...

Chow calling V a bunch of turds, lol, made me smile.
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
The first two quotes are from a different forum to your chatlog and not part of any command discussion - try again.
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Originally Posted by Armois Delgato
This has to be among the best EVE fanfiction I have ever read.
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Originally Posted by Gungankllr
[edit]Edited by: Gungankllr on 25/12/2006 10:33:01[/edit]
While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.

Jaques from ISD ruled that copying convos and out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.

If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
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Originally Posted by Gungankllr
While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.

Jaques from ISD ruled that copying out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.

If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
It's all good, GK, gotta love the drama ;)
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Originally Posted by Nifel
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Originally Posted by Gungankllr
While I have an intense dislike for BoB, I also hate people that copy and paste private convos and forum stuff to the Eve forums.

Jaques from ISD ruled that copying out of game stuff to these forums is against the rules, so you can just stop now.

If there's a moderator that didn't get the memo I'd be happy to forward the mail to you I have.
What rules would that be breaking? Shit ruling is all I can say, but I want to hear the reasons behind it.
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Originally Posted by ollobrains
privateers continue to kill everyone we are making empire more dangerous than 0.0 atm got an alt wanna shoot the rest of eve with our war decs come join - we are about to send this game into a whole new phase
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Cry..
Um, WTF.. u are a member of ASCN, with all the public posting of ur forums, eve-mail, jesus even TS recordings.. you are now wanting this thread silenced because it is stuff from BOB's internal world??!!
sentinel eeex = bob alt spy ftw?! [:ugh:]
Yeah, I forgot to post with my Sir Molle main. Bad me. You've done amazing investigative work, here's a cookie for you too.

Read what Gung wrote, since he said it better than I could (English not being native language and stuff).

Me being member of ASCN has nothing to do with me hating crap like this in a damn online game. I dislike Kugutsu as much as I dislike BoB, for posting private things on eve-o forums. At least I got a chance to shoot bobbits - that'll be harder with Kugutsu. BoB at least did it for propaganda war, this kid is doing it because he lacks attention.

He mostly pissed me off with disclosings things I've said on ASCN forum (in regards to getting shot inside POS shields) - which was not that horrible. Horrible was that he seemingly can't read or understand the point, and that is really annoying.

Won't even get into how he'd get access to forums (script kiddie is my guess). As in "I've just ran this piece of code, which I have no understanding of, but it allowed me to do 'stuff'" - my favourite kind.

/me wonder if anyone ever checks their weblogs, or uses mod_security, or... sigh
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex
/me wonder if anyone ever checks their weblogs, or uses mod_security, or... sigh
Trust me, we do all of that - unfortunately it would seem that access is being gained not through espionage (which is how we go about gaining intel, as distasteful as others may find it) but through exploiting security holes in our forum software. The holes will get plugged, of course, and our webmaster people are quite enjoying the chance to fight "real" haxing attempts and such; the thin grey line is mighty obvious from where this particular action is standing, though.
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Originally Posted by Fire Hawk
Because it allways go to flamefest and ISD use to delete posts with such convo logs.

As a BoB officer, I can tell that there isnt anything worthing more than a ISK in this thread.

1) There is no date, no location, no context on each logs, and Mr Smith, wanabee CIA or MI6 agent, you know that without details of context, chat logs are nothing.

2) There is no solid argument that made you jump from the content of your report to the topic title : "BoB is affraid of RA/Goon/D2". I can tell that's even ridiculous, as we can't wait to deal with them.

3) You showed hate towards a BoB officer. So I accuse you to not being neutral in your investigation. It is like a famous CIA report we all saw : "There is a lot of weapons of mass destruction in IRAK, and children that eat ppl and women that eat children."

Do I need to go for more ?

Happy xmas all ;)
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Fitz
BOB PILOTS WILL NOT POST IN THE "INTEL" THREAD
thanks
(except for dian)
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Eeex
/me wonder if anyone ever checks their weblogs, or uses mod_security, or... sigh
Trust me, we do all of that - unfortunately it would seem that access is being gained not through espionage (which is how we go about gaining intel, as distasteful as others may find it) but through exploiting security holes in our forum software.
Erm, yes, that's what I tried to imply (without trying to accuse anyone of actually exploiting :)

It's fairly simple, really.

His 'advertisement' (in his sig) mentions this:

* Security Assessment
* Penetration Test

You don't use these terms if you haven't been in computer/network security world.

He forgot "hardening", though [:D]

And I pretty much can assume he can't really code an exploit by himself...
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Originally Posted by SaorAlba
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Originally Posted by Fire Hawk
Because it allways go to flamefest and ISD use to delete posts with such convo logs.

As a BoB officer, I can tell that there isnt anything worthing more than a ISK in this thread.

1) There is no date, no location, no context on each logs, and Mr Smith, wanabee CIA or MI6 agent, you know that without details of context, chat logs are nothing.

2) There is no solid argument that made you jump from the content of your report to the topic title : "BoB is affraid of RA/Goon/D2". I can tell that's even ridiculous, as we can't wait to deal with them.

3) You showed hate towards a BoB officer. So I accuse you to not being neutral in your investigation. It is like a famous CIA report we all saw : "There is a lot of weapons of mass destruction in IRAK, and children that eat ppl and women that eat children."

Do I need to go for more ?

Happy xmas all ;)
Ah so it's true that Damgage control T2 are on the market now. I must hurry to Jita to get me one together with a free clue being a eurly adaptor[:idea:]
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Fitz
BOB PILOTS WILL NOT POST IN THE "INTEL" THREAD
thanks
(except for dian)
oh dear, you certainly have now blown your credibility, direct fiction ftw. Rookie mistakes ftw.
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Originally Posted by Darknesss
nice read [8)]
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Originally Posted by Fred0
[:lol:] Nice to see Nebba in TinFoil.

Apart from that not much news tbh. Everybody knows SNRA and BOB are buddy buddy and go way back. Question is how it will be arranged long term :)
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Originally Posted by fire 59
Emote reads through the chat log and content, strokes chin. Um, where abouts is the afraid bit btw, i must have missed it while i re-read it the 3rd time. Seriously though, thread title is just silly tbh, a pvp alliance scared of, um, pvp? [:roll:]
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Dianabolic
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Fitz
BOB PILOTS WILL NOT POST IN THE "INTEL" THREAD
thanks
(except for dian)
oh dear, you certainly have now blown your credibility, direct fiction ftw. Rookie mistakes ftw.
Fitz's quote is from your IRC channel, chump!

The first two quotes in the OP are from today and the rest was just to put things into context.

Do you really think my post is all fiction?

D2 and RAGOON are already preparing to bust Bob before you'll have the time to turn ASCN into "pet corps"*

Kugutsumen

* pet corp is the official name for vassal corporations.
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Originally Posted by Kaeten
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Hiya mate
what you up to today?
not much really, nearly located the titan's location
ah good news that will certainly spice things up
indeed, when will ascn fall?
did i mention i have a few pets
no you didn't go on..
I own a cow, chicken, two dogs, five cats, one fish which I'm tempted to eat, two donkeys and one err wrong looking hamster that.. well you don't want to know.
ah cool mate well i don't care about the titans anymore, may i come over and pet those animals of yours?
sure!
In other words, no matter how realistic "chatlogs" may look, they can always be made... If you want to post facts -> pics or stfu (well fraps or stfu as pics can be faked just as easy).

Me thinks people are desperate...
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Originally Posted by BoeserBiber
Quality! [:lol:]

you could show us some screens, will ya? [:D] [:pirate:] [:twisted:]
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Also if you like my eve-o post, don't forget to donate some ISK. Intelligence and infiltration work, browsing thru enemy forums takes a lot of time.
Now, at least you should give credits where credit is due :)
That is not intel that you have gathered personally, is it?
To who?

I run one of the largest intelligence agency in EVE, we have compromised over twenty alliances. I think my only rival would be The Mittani and his GIA.

Please don't mention Blacklight or Istvann; they are wannabes compared to me: presomptious, overconfident, arrogant, insolent...
actually your wrong about your rivals but i wont elaborate.
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
[edit]Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 11:06:30[/edit]
[edit]Edited by: Kugutsumen on 25/12/2006 08:58:16[/edit]
At the time Sir Molle said: [i]"Titan needs popped, bring MC and FIX."
it's not new news, just another reminder who keeps mc on a leash :P
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
D2 and RAGOON are already preparing to bust Bob before you'll have the time to turn ASCN into "pet corps"*

Kugutsumen
Best xmas present ever
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrian
Posting intel from private forums into eve-o is lame. [:?]

With that said, an interesting read. I'm inclined to believe it, since I know for a fact the titan intel is accurate and the rest seems to logically fall into place.

However, with the facts presented, I have to agree with the BoBs in this thread on one point: Where is the scared? I see no evidence of fear, merely acknowledgement of the fact that even they have limits when up against a fight on multiple fronts. From personal experience I can agree with this, because while BoB could put anywhere from 60 to 120 men in a system at any time of day, doing so required they remove their presence from anywhere else, including their own space.
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for the log of god no more bob threads on XMAS day
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[edit]Edited by: Myz Toyou on 25/12/2006 12:29:54[/edit]
/me grabs popcorn and waits till Nez Perces & Bitter Dog finally arrives to complete that thread [:lol:]
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Originally Posted by General Unpleasantness
Suspicious lack of bob forum warriors in this thread?[:lol:]
funny...I never thought I would see the greatest,most uber,well organised,most dedicated,titan owning,fearless,merciless,best PvPers,with the best leaders,with a huge industrial backbone and a massive forum squad,who play the game 'hard',who respect nobody and dont want to be liked themselves,who have the best spies,a massive cap fleet,who have challenged all of Eve to come take their crown suddenly.........fall silent?
Where is Yazoul and krystal?This guy calls you cowards and you just let him get away with it? Pffffft!
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lol, good going.

Doubt anyone was suprised by the thing, the title is wrong though :P
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Originally Posted by katz3
Very intresting. [:lol:]
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Originally Posted by Phrixus Zephyr
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Originally Posted by General Unpleasantness
Suspicious lack of bob forum warriors in this thread?[:lol:]
funny...I never thought I would see the greatest,most uber,well organised,most dedicated,titan owning,fearless,merciless,best PvPers,with the best leaders,with a huge industrial backbone and a massive forum squad,who play the game 'hard',who respect nobody and dont want to be liked themselves,who have the best spies,a massive cap fleet,who have challenged all of Eve to come take their crown suddenly.........fall silent?
Where is Yazoul and krystal?This guy calls you cowards and you just let him get away with it? Pffffft!
...because if you look carefully, they were ordered not to post.

On the other hand the amount of defusing and redirection going on is quite amusing.

Title is misleading and almost has me saying "Well done captain obvious" but the content was interesting to read.
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To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
The first two quotes are from a different forum to your chatlog and not part of any command discussion - try again.
Did you just say whay I think you said? Becasue I read that like your saying that the chatlog is authentic, and is on a different forum to the one with the quoted discussions.

Thats a big whoops there.

+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
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I assumed it was authentic, it matches all the rumours/intel/stuff flying about. It's no secret that everybody was expecting a BoB road trip to attmpt to knock the titan out.

The rest of it really is just conjecture and discussion. There's no real meat to it.
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Thats a big whoops there.

+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
90% of the chatlog is authentic, yes. Why would we deny it?

"omg d2 / ra are building a titan shall we kill it"?

errr?

He's added a nice few pieces of flame in there to spice things up, but the general gist of it? Sure, it's true.

LOL?

Even if the chatlog itself was false, is anyone surprised that such a conversation took place? Why would we deny that we had such plans?

Would be pretty stupid and ultimately pointless, no?
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Originally Posted by Stamm
I assumed it was authentic, it matches all the rumours/intel/stuff flying about. It's no secret that everybody was expecting a BoB road trip to attmpt to knock the titan out.

The rest of it really is just conjecture and discussion. There's no real meat to it.
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by Laythun
[edit]Edited by: Laythun on 25/12/2006 12:49:37[/edit]
Good Read but old news tbh.
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He's added a nice few pieces of flame in there to spice things up, but the general gist of it? Sure, it's true.
I copied that chatlog verbatim, didn't have add anything to it.
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Originally Posted by Turkantho
the funny thing in here is that bobbits want to keep their naps secret, guess the "omg stfu you northern nap monkeys" won't work that well when you acknowledge that you nap just like everyone else does.[:lol:]
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To say that The Mittanis' intel is up-to-date? LOL. We've seen his intel, it's even more out of date than yours is.
Dian, did you read the OP? the first two quotes are from today. The rest is just to give a background on why you haven't gone for D2 titan yet.
The first two quotes are from a different forum to your chatlog and not part of any command discussion - try again.
Did you just say whay I think you said? Becasue I read that like your saying that the chatlog is authentic, and is on a different forum to the one with the quoted discussions.

Thats a big whoops there.

+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
Dian, sorry... I didn't realise I had to post a genuine bob director post from today for credibility. So here it is:

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In a similar vein to Blacklights' "Paragon Pet summary", can we get an indication of suitable numbers to be allowed in to each region so as not to overload their resources and cause friction amongst future pets.

Current:
Esoteria:
Fountain:
Fethyabolis:
Paragon Soul:
Querious:

Optimal:
Esoteria:
Fountain:
Fethyabolis:
Paragon Soul:
Querious:

Thanking you please.
The OP was just a teaser... obviously if you want really up to date intel you have to be one of my customers.

Many thanks to all the ASCN members who sent me ISK, if only I could get just 5M from each person who read this thread :)
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Originally Posted by Soros
Only one way to find out.

Bring on the battles tbh.
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Originally Posted by Minmatar Wanker
[edit]Edited by: Minmatar Wanker on 25/12/2006 13:27:11[/edit]

You do all know he got this imformation by exploiting a loophole in the forum software, not actually working up to director status within bob [8)]

So based on that, the other "20" alliances forums he has acsess to, he is probaly doing the same.

Somthing to do with cookies ? I dont really understand !
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Originally Posted by Lowa
[edit]Edited by: Lowa on 25/12/2006 13:30:54[/edit]
Oh oh oh! X-mass day drama! I like! [:p]

Nothing that forward thinking leaders havent already planned
for and its no surprise that BoB is planning to (in one way
or another) and has been going after Capital yards all over EVE.

And you dont think BoB would welcome a real challange?
After the dissapointing resistance from ASCN and never been
properly attacked my guess is that ppl are feeling the adrenalin already.

And btw, Digital said "never afraid".

But its sort of refreshing to see that things can come
out from BoB too, just adds to the apocalyptic build up tbh.
And I would figure its considered another challange to plug the holes.

Edit: Haxing is bad btw, just so we are clear on that.


Cheers,
Lowa
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Originally Posted by hired goon
Oh my GOD!!!! HERE THEY COME!

WE'RE CHARGIN' OUR LAZOR!!!!!!!
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blah blah blah... [more libel]
Alt posts are not allowed in this forum
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Bob, please make new base in AZN, so we`ll be able to receive some fun pew pew each others, without pos.
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Well this is fun :)

We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.

I don't believe it will really be a shock to anyone in the Eve universe that we discuss potential targets, potential attacks on us, potential allies if needed etc. What on earth would our forums be for otherwise?

The OP's obviously talented at what he does and you're not going to see us complain that our forums are being spied upon, would be a lot more kudos to the OP if he'd done it by getting a spy in rather than hacking/exploiting some security loophole in PHP but such is life.

I hope you all enjoy the read and may your conspiracy theories run riot [)]

Happy christmas tin foil hat sellers and wearers alike!
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lol, didn't expect that post to end up here [:D]

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Originally Posted by meh
shakaZ XIV asks: "Why wouldn't they go for us? :P

Seriously though... /me looks in crystal ball (or was it tinfoil ball ;p), and sees: AAA probably wanna help RA wipe LV off ze map, then nap D2 (they have done this already, afaik?), after which AAA + goons + RA + D2 + all the other bob haters all gang up on us :D muhaha!

Or not... but you never know! ;p

/me starts mass producing tin-foil

Either way, totally lame from AXE that they just give up. :lol: gg to AAA tbh.."
It was pure tin foil hattery on my part, like it says in the post you copied. My conjecture is based on absolutely nothing. [:D] It's just me trying to predict a "worst case scenario".

Who says this will actually happen? And even IF this kind of stuff actually happened, it would be a lot of fun (and a proper challenge, for a change [:x]). No one said we are "afraid" of such stuff. I know some people in bob hoped the ASCN war would provide others with an excuse/opportunity to attack BOB, but it didn't happen.

But good to know the BOB forums are now officially compromised. [:lol:]

/me starts writing morale blog [:D]
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Originally Posted by Blacklight
We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Nothing is more valuable than an absolute certainty, as I'm sure you know. Every day in Eve we attempt to manage risk, we reduce it when it suits us, and increase it when it suits us. We fit warp core stabs on our haulers to reduce the chance that they will get ganked. We fit an extra point, to increase the chance we gank something.

In short, a true certainty in Eve is priceless. So now I offer you the chance for a true certainty, I can promise if you give me a BoB forum account with full access, everything you write will be read by your enemies.

On a serious note while I can't condone hacking/exploiting forum holes, but I'm nosy enough to hope he dumps the whole content and throws it up on the web for everybody to read. Would certainly be an eye opener to learn how BoB operates internally etc. But yeah, hackings bad, m'kay?
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Originally Posted by Blacklight
Well this is fun :)

We always work on the premise that everything in our forums gets read by our enemies, it's simply niave to believe otherwise.
Oh really?

Tell me then why do you post stuff on that forum that could get you banned from EVE? (hint: cynonet)
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Originally Posted by Angry Dan
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Thats a big whoops there.

+10 credibility to the OP, who I had assumed was some idiot troll. Authenticating the OP wasn't the planned response was it?
90% of the chatlog is authentic, yes. Why would we deny it?

"omg d2 / ra are building a titan shall we kill it"?

errr?

He's added a nice few pieces of flame in there to spice things up, but the general gist of it? Sure, it's true.

LOL?

Even if the chatlog itself was false, is anyone surprised that such a conversation took place? Why would we deny that we had such plans?

Would be pretty stupid and ultimately pointless, no?
I take everything I read here with a pinch of salt so big you need a truck to move it. 9 out of 10 posts are propaganda. The other one is usually just an outright lie.

And, no I wasn't surprised as to the content, I'm just surprised that you are not denying it. Surprise is a great advantage. It would be stupid to throw it away, unless you are trying to force D2 to start before they have the full monty ready.

I'm also more surprised about the implication of your future targets. I would have gone with helping LV swat RA and goons, with a hint of AAA or AXE on the side. But then, I'm just a lonely peon who knows nothing.
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Originally Posted by Crean NaVar
While the actual value of information is not that high, the comical aspect of the BoB and LV ( and alts ) replies is worth the thread. Very funny to see Dianabolic twisting and turning his way around some unconvenient truths in there.

I´d like to know how happy the general LV member is with the prospect of working with BoB in the future?

And I´m sure the general -V- members are very happy to see their great efforts to hold back RA over the past year appreciated that much by their good friend Chowdown.
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Originally Posted by Crean NaVar
I´d like to know how happy the general LV member is with the prospect of working with BoB in the future?
LoL and thats worse then working with aAa ? cute

Nobody is twisting whats been posted here, we are all having a great laugh while fixing the problem. We may work diffrently (spies) but in the end posting other alliances forum threads has never been an issue for us so this really isnt and nothing thats been posted should be coming as a suprise to the general public with a clue :P

[)]
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Silly propaganda
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Originally Posted by Rexthor Hammerfists
was a good read,
but i cant help but wonder why the op wasted such a nice spyzor spot for such a useless post?

well if its meant as a promotion then it makes sense.

whatever, i say bring it d2 and others,
itll b the biggest thing in 2007 ;)
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Originally Posted by Kugutsumen
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Originally Posted by Rexthor Hammerfists
was a good read,
but i cant help but wonder why the op wasted such a nice spyzor spot for such a useless post?

well if its meant as a promotion then it makes sense.

whatever, i say bring it d2 and others,
itll b the biggest thing in 2007 ;)
Did you watch the Curse of the Golden Flower?

4 comments:

~Rilariel said...

facinating stuff. I don't suppose you'd expound on this with what you see are logical courses of action?

Unknown said...

How did yo uget this information? Was it a straight up infiltration?

I have an acquaintance in BoB who recently had his accounts hacked to both the BNC and BoB forums (On Saturday).

Timing seems a little coincidental.

Kugutsumen said...

Stephen, I used hypnosis to steal bob forum accounts.

Anonymous said...

I love you.